tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post3761277626255249470..comments2023-09-16T15:03:34.579+07:00Comments on Adam Heine: First Impact: RACHEL ON FIRE by Vanessa ShieldsAdam Heinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-50867723765733017852013-01-24T22:01:46.966+07:002013-01-24T22:01:46.966+07:00I felt the logline was too long. I'm with Matt...I felt the logline was too long. I'm with Matt on where you could end it to make it more succinct. It also seems like there's a lot of character names in it. There are 5 names in 4 sentences, which is just a lot and it kind of clunks things up.<br /><br />As for the first page, i don't feel very grounded. I don't know who these people are, and i don't understand why the MC is so angry or even what any of them are feeling or why. I think you could fix a lot of this by backing up a little, and doing some character building before the ball is dropped about the house being sold.Sarah Ahiershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02795455714801965956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-28424401721788869982013-01-24T01:25:04.395+07:002013-01-24T01:25:04.395+07:00Wow! Thank you everyone! I agree with you that the...Wow! Thank you everyone! I agree with you that the 'loop' line poses an issues. What's happened is I've taken out so many pages (chapters, in fact) previous to these first 250 words in an attempt to get into the action and conflict of the MC. I've since taken out even more, and pushed the story beginning to when Rachel is at the bus station leaving, and she meets Tom. <br />Doing this, I believe, takes away all the confusion/hinting at the conflicts and puts us right into the action. <br />Thanks for the 'guts' vs 'gut' point. I'm a 'guts' girl - meaning I add the 's'!<br />Indeed, Rachel is sarcastic (defence mechanism) and it is not showing through as the first 250 words show in this version. <br />i'm very glad that despite these 'issues' you are all intrigued enough to want to read more. PHEW!<br />THANK YOU SO MUCH!<br />I will definitely be re-submitting. I look forward to you responses then as well! AuthorVanessaShieldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04659612039648383487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-78391456965227896522013-01-23T23:43:42.299+07:002013-01-23T23:43:42.299+07:00I completely agree with Adam's comment--what i...I completely agree with Adam's comment--what is she picking up on to feel out of the loop in para #1? I feel like this beginning is only hinting at some really interesting stuff, and not showing it to us. And the hints aren't big enough to really get me interested.<br /><br />the logline has a good hook but there is a lot of "love" in there that seems unnecessary. Maybe not so many mentions of it.<br />And I have no idea how the logline and the first page are going to connect. That troubles me a little bit. I would like to see some mention of the impending move or the recent move in the logline, so we know where we're headed. To ground us.<br /><br />All in all I think you're pretty close.It'll be in great shape after this critique I bet. Good job!Kristen Wixtedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270464973842125576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-9950639645018295862013-01-23T23:39:01.082+07:002013-01-23T23:39:01.082+07:00I think you could probably end the logline right a...I think you could probably end the logline right after the word "fire." Like Adam, that right there was all I needed.<br /><br />Adam covers most of what the first page needs, but here's some points from me.<br /><br />- Rachel falling out of the loop didn't bother me, since it seemed it would be explained shortly.<br /><br />- The bad feeling should be in her gut not guts.<br /><br />- "I couldn't believe what my ears were hearing," threw me. Maybe just "I couldn't believe my ears?"<br /><br />- "I pointed at them dramatically," threw me too. Who describes their own pointing that way? Unless it's meant to be a little sarcastic? Would that fit with the narrator's voice for the whole novel? If it was sarcasm, I didn't pick up on it.<br /><br />Otherwise, I agree with Adam. This is off to a decent start, but you could stand to dig a little deeper with these characters. Make us <i>feel</i> what they feel.Matthew MacNishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264738483763244969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-6513958815998256052013-01-23T22:00:23.557+07:002013-01-23T22:00:23.557+07:00These are just my thoughts... My first reaction wa...These are just my thoughts... My first reaction was that the delivery of the news about the house felt abrupt. No one seemed to be congratulating Alex, the conversation just shifted to the house. If there is a connection (or if Rachel's parents want her to think there is), someone can say "We might need to sell the house." Rachel can go all emotional and then discover it was a done deal from the start and she was the only one out of the loop.<br /><br />Good Luck!Patchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097638657085263738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-55916716440474999802013-01-23T21:36:00.002+07:002013-01-23T21:36:00.002+07:00I agree with what Adam said about not understandin...I agree with what Adam said about not understanding why she feels out of the loop (both times).<br /><br />I think maybe you need some more interiority. This is a first person POV so we can really get inside her head. When she says "Will it?" you could follow with something like: How can it be okay when (insert character's reason for being upset). <br /><br />Also, maybe a bit more context - are they just leaving the house or are they moving farther, to a different school district, say? That would also color the MC's reaction.<br /><br />And, a minor nit-pick, Dad says "we've got some news for YOU GUYS..." If Alex already knows, maybe he should just say "We've got news too."<br /><br />Hope this helps. Good luck.K Callardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689825742559394896noreply@blogger.com