tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post3915363291920608087..comments2023-09-16T15:03:34.579+07:00Comments on Adam Heine: When Is Piracy Okay?Adam Heinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-36679651469858216582012-12-19T05:10:11.000+07:002012-12-19T05:10:11.000+07:00For a long time I was a strict supporter of #1 (NE...For a long time I was a strict supporter of #1 (NEVER), but as I get older I become more and more of a #2, which is what I answered to this poll. <br /><br />When I can buy something with money, I will. Heck, I'll even wait the time for it to come to my country (which is why I have no yet watched Season 5 of Merlin or Season 3 of Downton Abbey, and why I waited forever for several Sara Douglass books). But sometimes it's just not fair or possible.<br /><br />A recent (but silly, I'll grant you) example was the nine minutes of Star Trek Into the Darkness that was put before The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey at the IMAX Release. I would gladly have paid the money to see The Hobbit in IMAX. As it was, I paid $15.00 for the first showing in my town, saw it in 3D 48 fps and waited five hours to get a good seat. I'm that level of crazy. So I would have definitely paid a few extra bucks for IMAX. But there is not a single IMAX theater in my entire state (woo, New Mexico!). So I either would have had to have driven eight hours or fly somewhere. I love Tolkien and Star Trek, but not that much.<br /><br />So when someone posted on youtube the first nine minutes of Star Trek that they had video taped before an IMAX screening on their phone, I watched it. And I didn't feel guilty at all. <br /><br />A silly example? Yes. But that and watching Doctor Who a few years ago when they had a six month delay between BBC and BCCA are the extent of my pirating experience. (Thankfully now Doctor Who gets a same day airing in the states.)Mandy P.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02453249544598951624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-76204424984850216292012-12-18T06:58:11.047+07:002012-12-18T06:58:11.047+07:00@Erik: The order is as close to an ethical hierarc...<b>@Erik:</b> The order is as close to an ethical hierarchy as I could get, but yeah, they don't all lend themselves well to a hierarchy.Adam Heinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-4743364234089572222012-12-18T04:52:32.514+07:002012-12-18T04:52:32.514+07:00My answer is ... #8!
This is a dangerous question...My answer is ... #8!<br /><br />This is a dangerous question. The way I explain fair use to my students when covering copyright is ... "show me the money."<br /><br />In practical terms, no one cares and you won't be taken to court *IF* the "owner" doesn't lose any money. (And sometimes piracy is even encouraged if the "owner" ends up making more.)<br /><br />As real world proof, I refer everyone to the case of the "jk wedding dance". Go to the website and read the letter. Then go watch the video on YouTube. Finally, answer this question: Why, oh why, didn't Chris Brown's lawyers send YouTube a take-down notice? (Hint: You don't need a hint.)Daniel Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12214334186482741716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-62243747320285300242012-12-18T02:38:46.136+07:002012-12-18T02:38:46.136+07:00Re: lending books
Libraries?
Re: abandoneware
T...Re: lending books<br /><br />Libraries?<br /><br />Re: abandoneware<br /><br />There are fewer and fewer cases of this nowadays with every IP owner releasing some barely ported version of old games to Android and iOS. I wonder if this will be a relevant corner-case soon?<br /><br />Re: the ordering of the options<br /><br />I don't know if the ordering of the options was an implicit statement of ethical hierarchy. If it was, I might be tempted to switch the orders of 3 and 4 due to the previous exchange of payment for goods suggesting a willingness of the user to provide compensation to the creator. It's tricky, an SD-version of an iTunes movie is arguably less functional in certain ways than a DVD copy (a certain definition of portability, etc.). And there are certainly shades of ethical considerations in this category: substitutions (iTunes to DVD) vs upgrades (VHS to DVD). However, I still would consider the willingness to pay for the product to be a marker that more closely resembles the ethics of #2 rather than the ethics of #3.<br /><br />In all likelihood, the intention of the user in each of these situations is what primarily determines the ethics of their decisions. And that's a box that I can't hope to see inside.Erik Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735938702001659391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-71387600835846613752012-12-18T00:19:42.368+07:002012-12-18T00:19:42.368+07:00Your brother makes a good point. As a writer, I ha...Your brother makes a good point. As a writer, I have to think lending books is good. If the person likes it, they may not but a copy of that book, but hopefully they'll buy a different book by that author.Matthew MacNishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264738483763244969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-43775232717092651232012-12-17T23:18:18.134+07:002012-12-17T23:18:18.134+07:00I say #2 because (and I was thinking more about vi...I say #2 because (and I was thinking more about video game piracy here) of what's known as abandonware. The software is so old that you couldn't find a legal copy to buy if your life depended on it. In that one case I'm okay with pirating.<br /><br />But here's a question for you that I struggle with: Is lending something to someone the same as helping them pirate it? They're (most likely) not going to buy whatever it is once they're done with it, so you could have cost the creators a sale by lending your copy.Cap'n Heinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13374110956066710321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-64256660818928414742012-12-17T22:52:29.611+07:002012-12-17T22:52:29.611+07:00I wish it were possible to pick more than one of t...I wish it were possible to pick more than one of those answers, because they're not all mutually exclusive and I feel more than one situation applies. <br /><br />I love your previous posts on piracy, incidentally. That's pretty much my own thoughts on it. I figure most pirates won't or can't obtain it legally for one reason or another, so it's pointless to get upset about it.Seabrookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09400079400485962650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-9529861341682118862012-12-17T21:58:45.630+07:002012-12-17T21:58:45.630+07:00No comment. Every time I talk about piracy, people...No comment. Every time I talk about piracy, people get mad at me.Matthew MacNishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264738483763244969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-5633246180147352372012-12-17T21:32:32.788+07:002012-12-17T21:32:32.788+07:00I chose 1, but I could see a point with 2.I chose 1, but I could see a point with 2.Stacy McKitrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07898731847653710759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-50134604653609071802012-12-17T21:13:15.858+07:002012-12-17T21:13:15.858+07:00For me it leans more towards #1. BUT - that's ...For me it leans more towards #1. BUT - that's purely because i'm super lazy and have no real clue how to go about pirating something. Otherwise, probably #2 with an occasional #4Sarah Ahiershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02795455714801965956noreply@blogger.com