tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post8769307266697228378..comments2023-09-16T15:03:34.579+07:00Comments on Adam Heine: The Problem with the Gun on the MantleAdam Heinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-38439860609846321802010-10-21T07:00:17.042+07:002010-10-21T07:00:17.042+07:00Hi, Andy (and Jamey, et al)!
It's not necessa...Hi, Andy (and Jamey, et al)!<br /><br />It's not necessarily being too dumb to see the gun. Sometimes the writers just did a really good job at being subtle :-)Adam Heinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-62219583405588067962010-10-21T03:51:17.567+07:002010-10-21T03:51:17.567+07:00Adam:
Great Post!!!
I enjoy reading this blog no...Adam:<br /><br />Great Post!!!<br /><br />I enjoy reading this blog not because I write, but because I think it makes me a smarter reader and viewer. This blog was eye opening. I hate when I get to the end of a movie and think "dangit - that was totally telegraphed, but I'm too dumb to have received the message." I'm now looking for the gun on the mantle.<br />Unfortunately, I still don't always see it. No spoiler here just in case, but the Mad Men season 4 finale gave you the loaded gun (like did everything but have it say "HI! I'm the loaded gun, wanna guess who I shoot?") and I COMPLETELY missed it. Ugh!<br /><br />So, thanks for enlightening me. I'll try to do better next time.<br /><br />~Andy<br />(ps - Jamey says Hi to you and your family!)Unknown Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145708211348755632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-72661559047876314952010-10-19T14:27:10.452+07:002010-10-19T14:27:10.452+07:00How funny - I just referenced Chekhov's quote ...How funny - I just referenced Chekhov's quote in a critique a couple of weeks ago. <br /><br />Part of what makes J.K. Rowling so amazing is how she gives her readers all of the right information they need, but in such a way that it's still easy to misinterpret. Megan Whalen Turner does the same thing.Myrna Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13534358757278599925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-68301178607447520512010-10-12T08:25:40.508+07:002010-10-12T08:25:40.508+07:00I walked away from that movie a bit disappointed. ...I walked away from that movie a bit disappointed. Aside from the awesome special effects, the plot was a basic Dances with Wolves meets The White Dragon.<br /><br />Sometimes predictability is good, but when the whole plot is predictible, it kinda lessens the enjoyment.<br /><br />Hmm, I didn't get that out of DUMA KEY. Maybe I should re-read it.<br /><br />A very thought provoking post Adam.<br /><br />......dholedolorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08715849844092553699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-5180661817998588582010-10-11T20:52:57.700+07:002010-10-11T20:52:57.700+07:00Misdirection. That's a good one too, Susan.
I...Misdirection. That's a good one too, Susan.<br /><br />I agree it's really hard to know how subtle is too subtle. Fortunately that's what beta readers are for :-)Adam Heinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-2703307188518112692010-10-11T20:50:19.274+07:002010-10-11T20:50:19.274+07:00Avatar was so easy on the eyes it was even more pa...Avatar was so easy on the eyes it was even more painful to see the cardboard characters and plot. Wait, what were we talking about? Right, foreshadowing.<br /><br />I think it's tough because writers <i>know</i> what's coming, and it seems fairly obvious to them, because they thought it up! The twist is a great way to keep the unpredictability, but then you have to make sure it's plausible as well.<br /><br />I try to make things subtle - or also spin the foreshadowing into a different context. There's a good reason for the foreshadowing to be there that has nothing to do with foreshadowing - a bit a writerly sleight of hand.<br /><br />But then I get too subtle, and the readers are like, Huh?<br /><br />The best is you <i>know</i> it's coming, but you can't see how it will possibly work out (see: Hunger Games).<br /><br />Great post!Susan Kaye Quinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07348197999397141067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-60302617318624840112010-10-11T20:27:46.587+07:002010-10-11T20:27:46.587+07:00That was easily my favorite part of the movie too,...That was easily my favorite part of the movie too, Christina :-)Adam Heinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-4026868578790222152010-10-11T18:52:00.362+07:002010-10-11T18:52:00.362+07:00good post! I agree about Avatar (good example), an...good post! I agree about Avatar (good example), and about twisting it if you must foreshadow. So I just watched for the special effects ;--)Christina Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799776834213400246noreply@blogger.com