tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post8812659060051685844..comments2023-09-16T15:03:34.579+07:00Comments on Adam Heine: Is Good Subjective?Adam Heinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-77809108497966542872011-10-07T02:12:16.272+07:002011-10-07T02:12:16.272+07:00*blushes*
Thanks. :)*blushes* <br />Thanks. :)Annie Laurie Cechinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02048645532725116369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-23026008613648494572011-10-06T22:38:22.511+07:002011-10-06T22:38:22.511+07:00Annie is brilliant.
Bane cracks me up (go kiss so...Annie is brilliant.<br /><br />Bane cracks me up (go kiss some dragons already!).<br /><br />Here's my 2 cents: <i>Ideas</i> are what compels us. Stories are ideas delivered in a way we can readily absorb, like moisture seeping into our skin. Badly written stories can have brilliant ideas tucked inside them and then it doesn't matter - the ideas still <i>stick</i>. And become insanely popular. Fantastically written stories can lack a compelling idea and are like a beautiful, ornate frame with a stock picture.<br /><br />Each of your examples have an idea that resonates with millions of people. We can only hope to write one of those in our lives. :) #butIllkeeptryingSusan Kaye Quinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07348197999397141067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-45402335775028634102011-10-06T12:00:34.839+07:002011-10-06T12:00:34.839+07:00Okay, but I really LIKE the farm-boy-as-the-chosen...Okay, but I really LIKE the farm-boy-as-the-chosen-one trope. Unless it's boring. Eragon wasn't my favorite version, but it held my attention the first time through.<br /><br />Good is definitely subjective. I love Jane Austen's books. My husband does not.Myrna Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13534358757278599925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-17368319595839315622011-10-06T06:41:51.116+07:002011-10-06T06:41:51.116+07:00I'm kind of in love with these comments, in sp...I'm kind of in love with these comments, in spite of the fact (or maybe <i>because</i> of it) that some of them contradict each other :-)<br /><br />Annie, for me, you win the internet today.Adam Heinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02225813532455467868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-51923514378876304482011-10-06T06:04:47.326+07:002011-10-06T06:04:47.326+07:00There are no rules. Do your own thing. And measure...There are no rules. Do your own thing. And measure your success by the happiness this brings.Seanhttp://blog.seanwbyrne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-6064621922897562792011-10-06T00:42:56.090+07:002011-10-06T00:42:56.090+07:00Good must be subjective, because I have rather tep...Good must be subjective, because I have rather tepid reactions to Neil Gaiman's books, and he's obviously <i>more</i> than good.<br /><br />For whatever reason, his stories don't resonate with me.jjdebenedictishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16950592240599703771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-61644376112256453062011-10-05T23:20:46.895+07:002011-10-05T23:20:46.895+07:00The thing is...
Weather is not objectively borin...The thing is... <br /><br />Weather is not objectively boring. <br />Adverbs are not inherently bad. <br />And the farm-boy-as-chosen-one may have been done a hundred times before, but it DOESN'T MATTER if the reader is enjoying this version.<br /><br />Writing may be an art, but books are entertainment. And the only measurement for whether or not entertainment is "good" is how much joy it brings into the world.Sarah McCabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10985261436020635823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-50838426638866427752011-10-05T22:51:33.022+07:002011-10-05T22:51:33.022+07:00See, here's the thing. If I'm a 14 year ol...See, here's the thing. If I'm a 14 year old girl in a hospital bed, I want to believe for a while that the scariest thing out there is a vampire clan and a pack of fickle werewolves, as opposed to cells I can't see that are destroying me from the inside out. In art, it seems to me that there are two audiences to consider: the usual audience, people who haven't studied the craft for years, and other crafters, who know all the degrees of quality. I think it's possible to write quality for an audience who doesn't know "the rules", and let the other crafters make of it what they will. It's kind of a different bear if you're writing FOR those other crafters, but personally I'm not, so I don't worry too much about established rules if it's getting the way of my story.Annie Laurie Cechinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02048645532725116369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-27669242576719403782011-10-05T21:30:22.288+07:002011-10-05T21:30:22.288+07:00Sadly it seems like the innovators of today had to...Sadly it seems like the innovators of today had to have broken into the market years ago and earned an audience. Nowadays, you break in by writing to formula and trend. I just don't see anything else happening--the big publishers are insanely risk averse now. They want a sure-thing--work that's just like something selling well.<br /><br />For those to whom that option doesn't appeal, there's always making your own path--build your audience and backlist in a grassroots way using e-book and POD technology.Laurel Garverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03657218435228802535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-39129601429852633282011-10-05T21:26:59.096+07:002011-10-05T21:26:59.096+07:00I don't know that people so much like the sum ...I don't know that people so much like the sum of one thing. Maybe it's just a part that reaches out to them and touches them in a way we can't see.The Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07773479939559180654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-70847228046545566692011-10-05T19:59:11.482+07:002011-10-05T19:59:11.482+07:00As Rick Moranis opined, "Good is dumb." ...As Rick Moranis opined, "Good is dumb." :)...<br /><br />Seriously, though, in some ways, simple is good, because, in many ways, most of us are simple creatures who often prefer the familiar (Harry Potter, for example, merged common monsters and myths into a school setting... not the most original idea, but the execution was brilliant). <br /><br />And Eragon had dragons, and dragons are very, very, cool and everybody should buy dragon books (For the record, I never read Eragon, but I believe my dragons are cooler b/c they glow :)Joshua McCunehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367262185912463258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4665052536053897386.post-49739488740192133312011-10-05T19:42:55.110+07:002011-10-05T19:42:55.110+07:00The thing is, and this is just as true with music ...The thing is, and this is just as true with music as with writing, pretty much any art, really ... the thing is that commercial success has almost no correlation to quality. In fact, if there is a correlation, it's more likely that commercial success goes along with shitty art, because most people are morons.<br /><br />I'm not mad about it, and I'm not trying to complain, but it is what it is, and I think if we, as writers, can come to accept it, it will be easier to accomplish what it is we're really after: telling great stories.Matthew MacNishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264738483763244969noreply@blogger.com